TONIGHT ON "GREATER BOSTON," THE NAACP AND THE LEAGUE OF UNITED LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE WARNING THE STATE OF FLORIDA MAY NOT BE SAFE FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR AFTER THE STATE ADOPTED A SERIES OF HARMFUL LAWS.

THEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT POLAR PARK IN WORCESTER AND WHETHER THE CITY'’S INVESTMENT IS PAYING OFF FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.

YOUR LIFE IS NOT VALUED, THAT IS THE NAACP'’S MESSAGE TO PEOPLE OF COLOR ABOUT FLORIDA.

THEY ARE ISSUING A TRAVEL ADVISORY FOR THE STATE, WHICH THEY ARGUE WAS OPENLY HOSTILE TOWARD AFRICAN-AMERICANS, PEOPLE OF COLOR AND LGBTQ+ INDIVIDUALS AND MARGINALIZES THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF AND THE CHALLENGES FACED BY AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

THIS WARNING COMES AS FLORIDA GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS IS LIKELY PREPARING TO ENTER THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE, BUILDING A CAMPAIGN ON THE CONSERVATIVE ENGINE.

HE HAS STOPED IN A STATE.

THIS YEAR ALONE, SHE HAS BLOCKED A HIGH SCHOOL AP COURSE ON AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDIES, EXPANDED HIS DON'’T SAY GAY BILL TWO CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION ON SEXUAL ORIENTATION IN ALL GRADES AND BARS THE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS TO COVER GENDER FOR CARE FOR ALL.

THE NAACP IS NOT ALONE.

THE LEAGUE OF UNITED LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS HAS ISSUED THEIR OWN ADVISORY.

THIS WAS AFTER DESANTIS SIGNED A NEW LOT TO CHECK THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF EMPLOYEES THROUGH A FEDERAL DATABASE.

TO DISCUSS ALL OF THIS, I AM JOINED BY THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THAT ORGANIZATION, DOMINGO GARCIA AND BY MICHAEL CURRY, CHAIR OF THE NAACP POLICY COMMITTEE.

TELL ME WHAT THE INSPIRATION WAS FOR THIS ADVISORY WARNING.

MICHAEL: WE KNOW HE HAS BEEN ATTACKING MANY OF THE CONSTITUENTS WE CARE ABOUT.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ACCESS TO DI PROGRAMS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION AND ALLOWING KIDS TO LEARN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY AND SOME OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT DEAL WITH RACISM.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ATTACKS ON THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY AND OTHER COMMUNITIES.

IN FLORIDA, THEY HAVE BEEN FOCUSED IN ON THIS ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME.

THEY CAME TO THE NATIONAL AND AA CP AND SAID -- NAACP AND SAID WE NEED THIS TO BE AN ADVISORY AND BROUGHT A RESOLUTION TO THE COMMITTEE WHICH I CHAIR.

I HAD A CHANCE TO PRESENT THIS RESOLUTION OVER THE WEEKEND AT OUR BOARD MEETING AND IT WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

REALLY CAUTIONING PEOPLE IF YOU ARE TRAVELING TO FLORIDA, REALLY LET YOU KNOW HOW FLORIDA TREATS PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THE MANY OTHERS WHO ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST WHEN THEY ENTER FLORIDA.

SUE: DOMINGO, WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR REACTION TO SOME OF THESE MOVES?

HAS THIS PUT UP A RED FLAG FOR YOU IN TRAVELING TO FLORIDA?

DOMINGO: WE PUT OUT OUR TRAVEL ADVISORY LAST WEEK WHEN WE SAW THE IMMIGRATION BILL PUTTING PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED, WE CAN STOP BY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN FLORIDA, I CAN GET CHARGED FOR FELONY FOR TAKING GRANDMA TO DISNEY WORLD.

SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS BY LAW ENFORCEMENT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT OF 1940 GERMANY, NOT 2023 IN THE UNITED STATES.

WE WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS.

LAST WEEK, WE HAD A WOMAN WHO HAD A BIRTH OF A BABY OUTSIDE.

THE BABY DIED AND SHE WAS AFRAID TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE SHE WOULD BE TURNED OVER TO ICE.

SUE: HAS THE NAACP EVER ISSUED A WARNING LIKE THIS BEFORE?

THE WORLD IS A DANGEROUS PLACE FOR ALL OF THE GROUPS YOU MENTIONED.

HAS THE NAACP EVER DONE THIS BEFORE?

MICHAEL: THE NAACP HAS HAD MANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

WE HAVE HAD TO PROVIDE WARNINGS FOR OUR MEMBERS, CAUTIONARY NOTES ABOUT VIOLENCE AGAINST AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND OTHER CONCERNS.

THIS IS AN EVOLUTION OF THAT.

THIS IS AN ADVISORY, NOT A BAND.

ONLY IN AMERICA AND THE PERVERSE POLITICS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WHEN BEING WOKE CAN BE A BAD THING.

YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO BE WOKE AND YOU WANT TO KNOW HISTORY AND YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE BEING TREATED AND MARGINALIZED.

WE OFTEN DRIVE PEOPLE IN THE SHADOWS AND COVID-19 TAUGHT US THAT.

THAT DOES NOT DO ANYTHING FOR OUR SOCIETY.

IT HURTS PUBLIC HEALTH AND IT IS UN-AMERICAN.

SUE: THIS OBVIOUSLY IS A POLITICAL ISSUE.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR WHO WAS MOST LIKELY GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

INITIATING AND IMPLEMENTING A STRATEGY OF WHAT HE WANTS TO LOOK AMERICA -- WANTS AMERICA TO LOOK LIKE.

THERE IS A LOT OF REPUBLICANS.

ARE YOU HEARING IT MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR ORGANIZATION WHO MIGHT BE ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE WHO ARE WONDERING WHAT IS HAPPENING IN FLORIDA?

DOMINGO: LULAC IS A NONPARTISAN AND WE HAVE ONLY ISSUED ONE OTHER ADVISORY IN ARIZONA IN 2010.

WHAT IS GOVERNOR DESANTIS DOING?

WHY IS HE USING HUMAN BEINGS, SCAPEGOATING THEM, FEAR MONGERING, THE POLITICS OF DIVISION AND HATE.

THAT POLITICS BACKFIRED ON THEM IN ARIZONA.

ARIZONA WENT FROM BEING RED TO BLUE.

SAME THING HAPPENED IN CALIFORNIA.

I THINK FLORIDA WILL CHANGE WITH THIS TYPE OF POLITICS AND DIVISION AND HATE.

SUE: TALKING ABOUT POLITICS AND TALKING ABOUT REAL PEOPLE.

I THINK ALL THREE OF US, WE TALK ABOUT POLITICS A LOT.

BUT I HAVE A NUMBER OF FRIENDS JUST LIVING THEIR LIVES, TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO, TRYING TO GO TO DISNEY.

I'’VE A FRIEND WHO HAS A TRANSGENDER CHILD WHO IS AFRAID TO GO TO FLORIDA IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.

I BEGAN THE DULL FRIEND WHO WAS WORRIED SHE MIGHT BE PREGNANT AND DID NOT WANT TO GO TO FLORIDA ENCASE SHE HAD A MISCARRIAGE.

THIS IS AN ADVISORY AND A WARNING.

ARE WE AT A TIPPING POINT WITH THIS ISSUE WHERE PEOPLE ARE SEEING THIS POLITICS, THESE IDEOLOGIES ARE NOT IMPACTING -- NOW IMPACTING THEIR EVERYDAY LIVES.

MICHAEL: I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.

I THINK ABOUT DR. KING'’S QUOTE A THREAT TO JUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE.

SO EVEN IF IT IS YOUR NEIGHBOR, YOU SHOULD CARE.

IT IS GIVING PEOPLE UNBRIDLED ACCESS TO TRAMP ON THE RIGHTS OF FELLOW CITIZENS.

IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE LGBTQ+ AND THEY NOW HAVE TO FEAR THE RHETORIC AS WELL AS THE POLICY COMING OUT IN FLORIDA, IF YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT AND YOU ARE NOW SEEING THIS HEIGHTENED SCRUTINY AROUND WHETHER YOU HAVE CITIZENSHIP OR NOT AND THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE BROADER FAMILY, IF YOU ARE A PERSON OF COLOR AND YOU ARE TRAVELING TO FLORIDA, YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT TEACHING REAL AMERICAN HISTORY IN FLORIDA.

THEY ARE ACTING LEGISLATIVELY TO RESTRICT THE TEACHING OF INCLUSIVE HISTORY.

FOR ALL OF US, WE HAVE TO ACT AND THIS ADVISORY IS PROMPTING US TO DO SO.

SUE: THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ELECTED LAWMAKERS IN FLORIDA WHO ARE HISPANIC AND THERE IS A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE WHO REPRESENT WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY.

WHAT ARE YOU HEARING BACK FROM THE PEOPLE IN FLORIDA, BOTH LAWMAKERS AND THE CITIZENS?

DOMINGO: I HAVE HEARD IT IS LIKE AN AMERICAN TALIBAN IS TAKING OVER.

WHEN YOU SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING, THEY ARE ENGAGING IN CULTURE WARS AGAINST THE GAY COMMUNITY.

WHERE DID THIS COME FROM AND I AM AFRAID WHEN YOU TAKE THAT GENIE OUT OF THAT BOTTLE, IT IS REAL DIFFICULT TO PUT IT IN.

WE ARE GETTING HATE MAIL AND DEATH THREATS.

PEOPLE IN FLORIDA SAY THEY ARE AFRAID.

THAT IS CREATING A LACK OF FEAR AND DISTRUST.

THAT IS WHY IT HAS TO BE CHALLENGED.

SUE: I AM STRUGGLING TO FIND A WAY TO DEFEND RON DESANTIS IN FLORIDA.

I AM TRYING TO OFFER A FAIR COUNTERBALANCE HERE, BUT I AM STRUGGLING TO FIND WHAT THE STRATEGY IS HERE.

I AM SEEING PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THEIR SILOS SUDDENLY GETTING BACK TOGETHER AGAIN AND PUTTING ASIDE DIFFERENCES THAT THEY MAY HAVE HAD AROUND SOME THINGS AND RECOGNIZING THIS AS A FRONT -- FRONT.

HOW DOES THIS BENEFIT FLORIDA, BROWN DESANTIS AS GOVERNOR OR AS A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT?

MICHAEL: IT DOES NOT.

IT DOES NOT BENEFIT FLORIDA.

IT BENEFITS THE CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT, RON DESANTIS.

THIS IS A CULTURE WAR.

THIS IS PERFORMATIVE.

HE KNOWS IT IS RED MEAT TO THE BASE AND IF YOU GO AFTER PEOPLE AND IF USE LOGICAL FALLACIES, YOU WILL PEEL TO PEOPLE SENSE OF SECURITY, MAKE THEM THINK SOMEBODY WILL TAKE THEIR JOB OR THEIR RELIGION OR THEIR GUNS, THAT MOTIVATES PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AND VOTE.

DESANTIS IS TRAFFICKING IN THAT, LIKE THE FORMER PRESIDENT DID.

AMERICANS HAVE SHIFTED SINCE DONALD TRUMP SELECTION A FEW YEARS AGO AND I AM HOPEFUL RON DESANTIS WILL HAVE A RUDE AWAKENING WHEN HE DECIDES TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, THAT AMERICA WILL NO LONGER TOLERATE THAT KIND OF HATE.

SUE: DOMINGO, WHAT WOULD YOUR MESSAGE SPEAK TO PEOPLE ABOUT HOW TO COUNTER WHAT IS HAPPENING IN FLORIDA?

DOMINGO: DO NOT GET MAD, GET ORGANIZED.

REGISTER TO VOTE, GET THE VOTE OUT.

SUPPORT CANDIDATES WHO SUPPORT US.

MAKE SURE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE TO SERVE AND STAND FOR THE BEST OF AMERICA COME ABOUT WHEN WE SAY LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, THAT WE MEAN ALL.

WE STAND UP AGAINST THOSE WHO WOULD PUT THAT DOWN AND SPIT ON THE FACE OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY.

SUE: DESANTIS MAY BE ANNOUNCING THIS WEEK.

ARE YOU GEARING UP FOR THE RHETORIC THAT WILL BE COMING?

I AM STILL REELING FROM TRUMP'’S INAUGURATION SPEECH WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT AMERICAN CARNAGE.

HOW ARE YOU PREPARING -- HOW IS THE NAACP PREPARING FOR THE DISCUSSION THAT MAY BE SWIRLING AROUND THESE DEBATES?

MICHAEL: WAR FOR THE TRUTH AND ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT WAR TO DELIVER THE TRUTH AND COUNTER THESE FALSE NARRATIVES ABOUT PEOPLE.

WE ARE IN THAT WORK OF MAKING SURE WE ARE ACTIVE AND ENGAGED AND WE ARE POINTING OUT THE LIES.

WE DO KNOW LIES HAVE BEEN MARKED BY THIS PAST SEVERAL YEARS AND WE DO KNOW RON DESANTIS AND OTHERS WILL TRAFFIC IN LIES.

WE HAVE TO POINT THAT OUT.

NOTHING CANNOT BE SOLVED THAT CANNOT BE FACED AND WE HAVE TO FACE THIS AND WE HAVE TO SHOW UP.

SUE: DOMINGO, THE ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION AND MIGRATION IS NOT ONE THAT IS NEW AND IT IS ONE THAT BOTH PARTIES HAVE NOT PAID ENOUGH ATTENTION TO.

CONCERNS ABOUT THE REVERSAL OF THE ASYLUM ISSUES.

AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK IT IS CLEAR TO MOST AMERICANS THAT WE NEED FOLKS TO WORK IN THIS COUNTRY, BOTH THROUGH MIGRATION AND IMMIGRATION.

WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN IN FLORIDA WITH THIS PAPER DEMAND?

DOMINGO: THEY SAY IMMIGRATION IS THE THIRD REALM OF POLITICS.

WE HAVE SEEN THIS POLITICS BEFORE.

IT CAN AFFECT THE ECONOMY AND THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE DATED DAY IN COURT APPEARED -- PEOPLE DAY TODAY IN FLORIDA.

WE NEED IMMIGRANT LABOR.

WE NEED TO OPEN UP LEGAL IMMIGRATION TO ALLOW THESE PEOPLE TO COME IN LEGALLY.

WE ARE A BROKEN SYSTEM AND IT WILL TAKE POLITICIANS FROM BOTH PARTIES TO FIX IT.

BUT IF ONE PARTY IS JUST BEATING UP ON THEM, WE ARE NOT GOING TO SOLVE ANYTHING.

SUE: DOMINGO GARCIA AND MICHAEL CURRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING IN ME -- JOINING ME.

WHEN THE RED SOX'’S TRIPLE-A TEAM MADE A DEAL TO MOVE TO WORCESTER, THIS CITY LIKES TO BUILD A STADIUM THAT WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF.

IT HAS BEEN OVER TWO YEARS AND SINCE THEN, THEY HAVE BECOME ONE OF THE BIGGEST TICKET SELLERS IN MINOR-LEAGUE BASEBALL.

BUT WITH A PRICE TAG OF $160 MILLION, IS POLAR PARK ACTUALLY WORTH IT FOR WORCESTER?

FINANCIALLY SPEAKING, THE ANSWER IS NO.

THAT IS ACCORDING TO A RECENT PAPER BY TWO LOCAL ECONOMICS PROFESSORS.

THEY SAY IT WILL COST WORCESTER 40-60 $1 MILLION OVER THE NEXT YEARS.

I AM JOINED BY THE CO-AUTHOR OF THAT STUDY, ROBERT BAUMANN, PROFESSOR OF ECONOMICS.

WHY DO YOU THINK IT WILL COST WORCESTER SO MUCH?

ROBERT: WE TOOK THE ECONOMIC MODEL, WE TOOK SOME OF THOSE ASSUMPTIONS AND WE FUND -- FOUND A COUPLE OF THEM WERE UNREALISTIC.

WE ADJUSTED THE NUMBERS FOR THAT AND THE OTHER BIG ADJUSTMENT WE MADE WAS THE INCREASE IN THE CONSTRUCTION COST OF THE STADIUM.

THAT IS HOW WE GET THOSE NUMBERS.

SUE: WHERE YOU COMING FROM THIS FROM A PERSPECTIVE -- I AM ALWAYS MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT WHENEVER THE CITY OR STATE OR TAXES WILL BE USED TO BUILD A PRIVATE COMPANY'’S HOME THAT WE ARE INVESTING IN A PRIVATE COMPANY AND HOPING WE GET AN ECONOMIC PAYOUT.

IS THAT THE PERSPECTIVE YOU WERE TAKING OR WERE YOU MORE NEUTRAL?

ROBERT: FOR US, WHERE WE GET FRUSTRATED IS THE CLAIM THAT THE STADIUMS WILL PAY FOR THEMSELVES.

WE SUSPECT THAT IS DONE FOR POLITICAL REASONS.

NOT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY IS A FAN OF SPORTS.

IF YOU TELL PEOPLE WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS AND IT WILL NOT COST YOU ANYTHING, IT IS DIFFICULT TO BE AGAINST IT.

OBVIOUSLY, POLAR PARK IS ALREADY HERE AND WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

OUR IDEA WAS TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT STUDY THAT THE CITY COMMISSION PRIOR TO BEING BUILT AND TAKE IT APART AND FIGURE OUT WHAT SHOULD THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE.

WE FOUND THAT STUDY WAS WILDLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE GROWTH RATES OVER TIME.

SUE: YOU TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, WHICH WERE NOT WHAT WAS EXPECTED.

WHAT ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE CITY ITSELF, HOUSING PRICES, PARKING LOTS, ADDITIONAL BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC STIMULUS?

HOW DID YOU CALCULATE THAT?

ROBERT: THERE IS A LOT OF WINNERS AND LOSERS IN THIS.

OUR ATTITUDE IS THAT THE RIGHT GEOGRAPHIC AREA SHOULD BE THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY IS PAYING FOR IT.

RATHER THAN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE YOU WILL SEE THE MOST DEVELOPMENT.

WE ARE SYMPATHETIC TO THE IDEA OF CITY COUNCIL FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO LOOKING AT AN AREA OF DOWNTOWN THAT THEY HAD WANTED TO DEVELOP FOR A LONG TIME.

OUR COMPLAINT IS THAT THE NUMBERS NEVER ADDED UP THEN AND THINGS GOT WORSE SINCE THEN.

ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THAT THE CITY DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR RISK.

NOBODY SAW COVID-19 COMING SO WE DO NOT FAULT THEM FOR THAT.

SUE: DO YOU OFFER A REMEDY IN YOUR REPORT?

ROBERT: YES, DO NOT BELIEVE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDIES BEFORE IT IS BUILT.

WHAT WE TELL CITY OFFICIALS WHO HAVE PUSHED BACK IS THAT WE WANT THERE TO BE HONESTY IN THIS DEBATE, WHICH IS IT MIGHT COST THE CITY SOME MONEY.

THERE ARE INTANGIBLE BENEFITS.

I LIVE IN WORCESTER AND I LIKE THAT IT HAS BROUGHT SOME CITY PRIDE TO PEOPLE.

ALL THE BEST STUFF IS GREAT AND IT IS DIFFICULT TO MEASURE.

OUR ATTITUDE IS LET'’S JUST BE HONEST ABOUT THIS.

WHEN THESE FACILITIES ARE GETTING BUILT IN CITIES LIKE WORCESTER, THE DEBATE WAS FRAMED THAT IT WILL PAY FOR ITSELF AND THIS IS THE LATEST IN A LONG LINE OF STADIUMS THAT HAS UNDER DELIVERED ON THAT PROMISE.

SUE: DO YOU ENVISION WHERE THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT BETTER?

IF WE STAY IN THE CATEGORY OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHERE WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THIS MONEY GETS SPENT?

ROBERT: THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

HONESTLY, AS A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS A HUGE ISSUE HERE.

THE CITY HAS MADE A LOT OF INVESTMENTS INTO THAT, BUT MY OPINION IS WE ARE NOT DONE.

IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS ANOTHER PATH YOU CAN GO.

WHAT IS FASCINATING ABOUT SPORTS IS IT SCRAMBLES PEOPLE DOLLARS AND CENTS.

THE TEAM WENT IN HERE AND OUR CITY COUNCIL DID NOT DO ITS DUE DILIGENCE.

SUE: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FIND IT REMARKABLE IN BOSTON IS THAT I USED TO WORK IN THE FENWAY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WAS GRIM.

NOW WHEN I GO THERE AND I SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I SAY WHY COULDN'’T SOMEBODY SEE THIS BEFORE?

IS THERE STILL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE POLAR PARK TO BECOME SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAT MAY GENERATE MORE INCOME AND MAY BE AT LEAST BREAKEVEN?

ROBERT: CERTAINLY.

I WOULD SAY A BIG DIFFERENCE HERE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY LOOKS DIFFERENT.

ANOTHER ISSUE WAS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE STADIUM HAD TO BE SCALED BACK.

NOBODY SAW THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC COMING.

A LOT OF PLANS THAT SCALED BACK BECAUSE OF IT.

IT THESE FOR DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN TO PAY THE BILLS.

IT HAS UNDER DELIVERED ON THAT PROMISE.

THE QUESTION IS, WILL DEVELOPERS STILL WANT TO DO THAT GOING OR WHAT?

-- GOING FORWARD?

SUE: ALMOST EVERY STATEWIDE CANDIDATE I HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS WOULD OFTEN TALK ABOUT HOW WORCESTER IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT PLACE, IT WILL FINALLY LIVE UP TO ITS POTENTIAL.

WE ARE GOING TO CONNECT WORCESTER AND BOSTON.

THERE WAS A LOT OF HOPES AND DREAMS PUT ON THIS STADIUM.

HOW DO WE GET WORCESTER TO WHERE EVERYONE HOPES IT WILL BE SO THAT IT CAN BE MORE CONNECTED TO BOSTON AND VICE VERSA?

ROBERT: THAT IS INTERESTING.

I COULD OFFER THE POINT THAT WE ARE DOING FINE AS WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

I'’VE LIVED HERE FOR 12 YEARS.

WHEN I MOVED OUT HERE, I NOTICED WORCESTER KIND OF HAS A INFERIORITY COMPLEX.

TO ME, BOSTON IS GREAT, SO IS WORCESTER.

DOES IT NEED TO BE CONNECTED FURTHER?

I THINK IT WILL BE DIFFICULT.

THE TURNPIKE GOES RIGHT UNDER OUR CITY AND IT MAKES IT KIND OF HARD TO GET THERE.

SUE: ARE YOU ATTENDING GAMES?

ROBERT: SURE, IT IS A GREAT EVENT AND I RECOMMEND PEOPLE DO THE SAME.

IT IS NOT ABOUT TOURING THE STADIUM DOWN.

-- TEARING THE STADIUM DOWN.

WE ARE ONTO THE NEXT BATTLE, THE NEXT STADIUM.

IT IS HAPPENING IN A VARIETY OF PLACES.

SUE: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATED READING YOUR ARTICLE ABOUT THE SITUATION IN COMMONWEALTH MAGAZINE.

THANKS SO MUCH.

ROBERT: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SUE: THAT IS IT FOR TONIGHT, WE WILL BE BACK TOMORROW.

I AM SUE O'CONNELL.

THANKS FOR WATCHING.